Atheism, Morals, Psongs, Psayings, Psomethings, Pnothings.

Ok Everyone, Read This Link Before You Read My Post.

This makes the second of two posts I've read by this person. Granted, he makes sense in logical terms but I shut down the minute he starts going on and on and on about Zionist Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc, ad nauseum.

There is the fact that many pagans were slaughtered by the Christian "crusaders" and pagans have had their wars with the Romans as well. Of these facts, I found no mention of the pagans or the fate they suffered.

After reading this, I realize that rys2sense's approach to the issue of whether or not morality is possible without religion as a basis for it is based on anger, sarcasm and an approach that is near-fatalism. In his arguement, attacks on Christianity are made and even implied in the treatement of it's dogma.

I agree with him that morality is possible without religion (organized or otherwise) but would like to do this arguement more service by taking a more logical approach.

For starters, the only thing that can inhibit someone's morality is their upbringing. In most cases, those raised in a strict and confining moral structure will find themselves in more amoral settings, choosing to break free of constraints for some time before possibly seeing the logic behind some of these morals.

In other cases, raised in situations to the other extreme, they will become amoral themselves and always blame others or fake morals to get what they desire.

Each person is different. Morals are separate from religious doctrine but go hand-in-hand with it at the same time. It really depends upon the person.

Morals change with each person over time. Some might see the moral thing to do to a murderer would be to kill him or her in kind. Others will not see it the same. Some do change their moral opinion on this issue and it's happened more than once.

Each person on this planet has been given free will. No one is a slave to any abstract concept. Each person on this planet has things to consider and most will choose to serve a higher purpose. Some do subscribe to self-sacrifice, love, honor, compassion and caring. Some to a set of morals of self-serving, carnal, self-gratification. Some will go from one extreme to another and back again, their lives a mass of confusion.

Does this have anything to do with religion? Sure, depending on the circumstances.

Does this mean that religion is to blame? No.

While organized religion shares in the responsibility for it's share of wrongs in the world, people do as well. Remember that I pointed out that people have free will. Indoctrination, while strong, is breakable. There is not a method of brainwashing conceivable to mankind that cannot be broken.

The point to all of this is there is no single one group that can dictate morals. There is no Moral Majority. If there is, they'd better include mine or be taxed like the rest of us.

The Bible, The Qura'an, The Torah, Buddha's Teachings, The Hindu Texts, compare them all and stop looking for the differences because the differences were all put there by man. You were born with a mind, use it. Open yourself up to the fact that we live in a universe of infinite possibilities but remember to analyze everything you're given as far as information.

Rys2sense's arguement is done a great disservice by attacking Christianity. While mine offers no references and paints human beings with broad strokes. It serves better to present a case based on self-evident fact than attack.